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Tech Salaries in Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver Revealed (2018)

Randstad, the behemoth of a recruitment agency, has recently published list of technology / IT salaries across Canada.

The numbers are interesting to see as there is a big difference in remuneration between cities in Quebec such as Montreal where some salaries can be atrociously 30-50% less than Toronto , Vancouver, Calgary, Waterloo and Ottawa.

For example, if you look at entry level for C# in Montreal you would get $45k vs $65k in the rest of Canada. Or entry level iOS is $50k in Montreal, and $64k in Toronto or $65.5k in Calgary.

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If you are a bilingual tech support – you might want to consider Vancouver where Level 3 tech support can get $65.9k vs $52.6k in Montreal for example.

Or if you are a database admin, you might want to consider Calgary where they pay $122k vs $90k in Montreal.

But what happens if you love Montreal, joie de vivre and all the baguettes you can eat BUT do not want to get undercut on a salary? Then you need to be an UI UX developer where folks get a whooping $121k in Montreal vs $98k in Waterloo or $100k in Toronto OR AI (artificial intelligence) developer – Montreal gets $131k vs $120k in Ottawa, Toronto and Waterloo.

Please note that when report talks about entry level that means 1 to 3 years’ experience (or just out of school); mid-level is 4 to 7 years of  experience; and senior level is 8+ years.

Without further ado see the cities and 2018 tech salaries in Canada associated with them as provided by Randstad.

Tech Salaries in Montreal for 2018

Tech Salaries in Ottawa for 2018

Tech Salaries in Toronto for 2018

Tech Salaries in Waterloo for 2018

Tech Salaries in Vancouver for 2018

Tech Salaries in Calgary for 2018

Canada’s Tech Going Down South

Brain Drain – here we are again. Just like in the 1990s – early 2000s, when living was easy south of the border in California with its nice weather year around, the exchange rate US Canadian dollar is extra 35% top up, salaries are double what you make home (in Toronto at least, more than that when compared to Montreal / Vancouver), and taxes are lower (by about 3% lower in California vs Ontario on $100k USD).

So it’s not difficult to see why the new study published, led by Zachary Spicer, a senior associate with the Munk School of Global Affairs’ Innovation Policy Lab at University of Toronto, revealed that an alarming rate of young graduates head south of the border for work as soon as they finish their degrees here in Canada.

The study found that at least 25% of recent science, technology, engineering and math (STEM) graduates from three of the country’s top universities – University of Waterloo, University of British Columbia and U of T were working outside of Canada within few years of finishing school. The study surveyed 3,162 graduates from 2015 and 2016 in 22 STEM programs at the three universities based on their LinkedIn profiles and select follow-up interviews.

The numbers are much higher as seen from the graph below when it comes to Software Engineers. It shows that 66% of new grads in that field end up in the US. That’s 2 out of 3 recent grads.

This study was surprising due to the fact that for the last few years many media outlets paint Canada as rising tech star and place where people want to live and work.

And why not? If you can have endless summers, you are young (no health care issues) and can get double the pay as per recent study by Indeed.com that pointed out average salaries in Toronto around $73k vs $142k in San Francisco and almost the same real estate cost, and have skills to back it up and have no family to support (ie no need to pay for healthcare, daycare, school, etc.) Than moving to the USA is no brainer.

Tech Salaries in San Francisco, California, USA vs Toronto, Ontario, Canada

That’s a big concern for the Canadian government that is in the business of heavily subsidizing university education. Computer Science degree at University of Toronto for example for Canadian students will only costs you around $5k USD vs around $50k USD a year for Ivy League schools in the US.

Some LinkedIn were calling on the Canadian government to “react to this brain drain problem fast and effectively.”

But the problem is maybe simple economics, Canada is a country which has politeness, shyness and under ambition when it came to money as pointed out by recent KPMG report. Instead of growing Canadian startups into billion dollar corporations, a lot of founders decide to exit via acquisition. The average exit is only $8m. With almost 2 million Canadian companies in existence, the ones that scale up and go the distance and achieve true scale can be counted on your fingers.

Also in some places like Montreal, you will end up paying 17% more in taxes when comparing to places like Austin, Texas on salaries over $130,000 (41% in Quebecs vs 24% in Texas).

Sheldon Levy, former education minister told Globe and Mail

If two-thirds of our very best people [are leaving] because they don’t see the equivalent opportunity of developing a world-beating career in Canada … then yes, we have a problem.

The founders of the study call on the Canadian government to create “national talent retention strategy” and help pay back the loans, asking Canadian companies to pay more to compete with the US and hire more students faster.

But as summarized by the study’s own author Adam Froman

I’m not expecting we’ll turn this around [completely]. If you’re a 24-year-old kid, it’s kind of exciting to get paid $100,000 to go down to the Valley.

Vancouver to Seattle Highspeed Train Almost a Reality

Update: While High speed train is being studied by both provincial and state governments, a private company, Harbour Air Seaplanes, has launched a seaplane that gets you in Seattle in around 1 hour from Vancouver.

The tickets are around $400 but if speed is what you are after – this will be the best option for you right now.  Please note Nexus, Enhanced Drivers Licenses and passport cards are not accepted at this border crossing. Passport is Required.


Who needs Amazon HQ2 in Canada, when you can soon be able to  travel by high speed train reaching speeds of about 400 km/h from Vancouver to Seattle. This means you can live and enjoy your free health care in Vancouver Canada while working and making double Canadian salary at Amazon HQ in Seattle in under 1 hour. Right now same that same trip takes around 4.5 hours.

British Columbia Premier John Horgan spoke approvingly of the possible high speed train after it was announced that BC provincial government will spend additional $300k to study the plan while Washington state approved funding of up to US$1.2 million toward the new in-depth study.

John Horgan, BC premier said:

“It’s our view that this is an opportunity that we shouldn’t let pass by. It’s a physical link between our two jurisdictions and one that will get cars off of the road and will move people and goods in a fast and effective way.”

“The convenience of a one-hour trip between Vancouver and Seattle would create countless opportunities for people in both B.C. and Washington, from sports or concert getaways for families, to untold economic growth potential for businesses. Exploring the possibility of creating a clean, efficient high-speed corridor is particularly important as the Pacific Northwest grows in economic importance, and we look to reduce barriers to expansion across our borders.”

This train corridor service would cut travel times between Vancouver and Seattle to about 60 minutes, from three to five hours.

If train link is successful it can help create up to 200,000 jobs for B.C. and U.S. workers, and generate billions of dollars in economic benefits.

 

Devs in Canada – You Making Enough Money?

Stack Overflow, job board and IT community of sorts, have introduced a salary calculator where you can input your profile information and it will provide you with estimate salary you should be making.

The tool is available in Canada and you can compare web dev salaries in Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, etc by entering your role, city, skills, years of experience, and education level.

After entering all that info, Stack Overflow will provide you with a range of salary you should be making and suggest different roles you might be wiling to try.

Salaries Vary across Canada for Developers

We have decided to give it a test to see what

  • backend developer with
  • 8 years of experience with
  • Java experience gets you across Canada

Here is what we got in 50th to 75th percentile salary range (all money in Canadian dollars):

Montreal: $74k-$89k 

Toronto: $80k – $96k 

Vancouver: $74k-$89k

.. and Europe? Depends where you are

Paris – $66k – $80k

Berlin – $80k-$100k

London – $80k-$95k

We all need to move to NYC

New York City – $125k – $150k

 

You can try the calculator by yourself by visiting: https://stackoverflow.com/jobs/salary